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- How long after submission do the purple viewpoint markers appear on the coverage map? Close
- Currently (June 2021), updated every Tuesday morning.
But could still take a few days to show due to caching.· More information on this topic... · contributed by Penny Mayes, Jun 2021 · Edit this answer (Open for editing by anyone) · Provide an alternative answer! - I don't understand Grid References - are there any sites to help me? Close
- Here's a quick link to the Ordnance Survey's beginner's guide to grid references: https://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/getoutside/guides/beginners-guide-to-grid-references/
Grid references locate places on the map. They consist of one (Ireland) or two (Great Britain) letters followed by an even number of digits. The letters define a (100x100)km^2 square (a 'myriad' in Geograph-speak) and are best looked up on an overview map. The numbers locate the position within that square. To find a location, split the block of numbers in two. The first block is the easting, i.e. the distance from the western edge of the myriad. The second is the northing - the distance from its southern edge.
Grid references always specify square areas, not points. The more digits there are, the smaller is the square referred to, and the higher is the precision of the grid reference. For each pair of digits, the precision increases by a factor of ten: SN58 defines a square of (10x10)km^2, 50km to the east and 80km to the north of the origin of myriad SN. SN5881 is a (1x1)km^2 square 58km east and 81km north of that origin. SN 58272 81324 is a (1x1)m^2 area. When stating a grid reference, the precision given should be in line with the accuracy of the position (how well do we actually know where we are?) and with the size of the object (a building doesn't fit on a 1m^2 footprint).
The system Geograph still uses in Ireland works in exactly the same way, although the Ordnance Surveys of Ireland and of Northern Ireland have recently introduced a different system for their maps. This article http://www.geograph.org.uk/article/Locating-photos---Republic-of-Ireland explains the differences.· More information on this topic... · Edit this answer (Open for editing by anyone) · Provide an alternative answer! - Why can I only get to page 20 of search results? Close
- For performance reasons our search engine can only access the first 1000 results of a given search. This is in fact just like Google and other major engines.
If you are trying to view more images, there is a few techniques to use. The best one is to try to narrow your search results. Maybe adding a another keyword. Or even specifing a date range - for example limiting to only recent images.
If you order the results in date submitted (decending or ascending) order, you may be offered a link on the last page to create a new search from that approximate point forward (it does this by adding/changing the date critieria of the search) - in this way you can get though by using a number of seperate searches.· contributed by Barry Hunter, Sep 2011 · Edit this answer (Open for editing by anyone) · Provide an alternative answer! - How can I find out which of my photos have Tpoints? Close
- Use the keyword
points:tpoint
in a search of your own images (easiest to do from your profile page).· contributed by Penny Mayes, Oct 2011 · Edit this answer (Open for editing by anyone) · Provide an alternative answer! - I've spotted a mistake. What should I do? Close
- [PERSONAL OPINION OF THE AUTHOR] Geograph takes pride in taking care about accuracy of location and information content. We like to think that this sets us apart from many other picture sites on the internet.
Whether it is one of your own pictures or someone else's, if you think something's wrong, please use the 'change image details' or 'suggest update' link under the main picture. This gives you access to a form where you can amend any of the details (subject and camera position, view direction, title, description etc). After making your changes, leave a short explanation in the box at the end of the form.
Changes to your own images will update immediately. The only exception are changes to the subject grid square, which are moderated; this will typically take a day or so.
If you suggest changes to someone else's pictures, they will be alerted and have an opportunity to reply. Ideally, you should work with the original contributor to come to a consensus. Moderators will try to assist with that. Generally, accuracy is taken very seriously, but if additional information is presented, it is the photo contributor's prerogative to decide whether to accept it.
When making a suggestion, please bear in mind that you are communicating with the original author, not primarily with Geograph. Explain your changes in a friendly and civil manner, and supply sources to verify your point. Avoid making many suggestions to the same contributor at the same time.
Suggestions which are mainly concerned with geograph/supplemental* classification or seek to move positions by small amounts within the stated precision (often 100m) are regarded as a waste of time by many and can cause aggravation out of proportion with their usefulness.
* (From 11 May 2016 the Supplemental Classification is replaced by Image Type Tags:
see http://www.geograph.org.uk/article/Image-Type-Tags ).· More information on this topic... · Edit this answer (Open for editing by anyone) · Provide an alternative answer! - How do I find which squares need photographing? Close
- If you are looking for squares to obtain a point, try the coverage maps, and look for green squares; also accessible from that page are various printable checksheets for easy reference in print form. More technical users might enjoy GPX, or Memory Map downloads.
Many of the squares have been captured but only have a few photos; check out the depth map, from which you can find under-represented squares. In the same vein we have a number of maps to show the distribution of photos within a square, usually on a centisquare grid, which divides a grid square into 100 squares, each 100m by 100m.
We have also recently introduced a new map, "Recent Only" this shows recent photos. Help us keep the coverage current by photographing squares without any recent photos (orange or green).
Also look out for Red pin icons around the site, click them to take you to the links page for the location. From that page you can access textual lists of squares in need of photos (as well as direct links to many of the maps on the site).)· Edit this answer (Open for editing by anyone) · Provide an alternative answer! - Where can I see how many points I have? Close
- Go to your profile page (link top right on every page). All the various types of points you have are displayed under 'My Statistics'.· More information on this topic... · contributed by Penny Mayes, Aug 2017 · Edit this answer (Open for editing by anyone) · Provide an alternative answer!
- How do I get a list of my photos as a CSV? Close
- On the bottom of your profile page, look for "Download: CSV , XML for Excel 2003 of all images".
This has links to download as Comma Separate Values (CSV) or Excel XML format.
These can be opened in spreadsheet software, eg LibreOffice or Micrsoft Excel.
The URL for these downloads looks like this:
For CSV: http://www.geograph.org.uk/export.csv.php?u=XXXX&supp=1&taken=1&submitted=1&hits=1&tags=1
For Excel: http://www.geograph.org.uk/export.excel.xml.php?u=XXXX&supp=1&taken=1&submitted=1&hits=1&tags=1
The parameters specify what is included. The contributor is u=XXXX, where XXXX is the user ID. If you use a link from your own profile, it will include your own ID.
Other options:
&supp=1 - include photos classed as supplemental
&taken=1 - include taken date
&submitted=1 - include submitted date
&hits=1 - include hit count
&tags=1 - include tags, in a list separated by question marks
&desc=1 - include description
&class=1 - include classification (geograph or supplemental)
&level=1 - include geograph points, eg 1st, 2nd, 3rd
&ll=1 - include latitude and longitude (in separate columns)
&en=1 - include numerical grid reference, in easting and northing, plus figures for precision
&ppos=1 - include photographer position, easting and northing
For more details, see the API help: http://www.geograph.org.uk/help/api#csv· contributed by Craig Wallace, Sep 2013 · Edit this answer (Open for editing by anyone) · Provide an alternative answer! - I've uploaded a picture, why is the square still green on my personal map? Close
- Normally, maps get redrawn within 24 hours. If this doesn't happen, please post a bug report on this forum thread: http://www.geograph.org.uk/discuss/index.php?&action=vthread&forum=4&topic=13731 .· More information on this topic... · Edit this answer (Open for editing by anyone) · Provide an alternative answer!
- Where do I find squares where points are available? Close
- It depends on which kind of points you're chasing. If it's good old first-geograph points you're after, the answer is probably 'Ireland', although a handful are still left on the big island too. Many of them are mudflats and military installations, though, so good planning and potentially letter writing for permission may be involved. First-geograph points are available in squares shown in green or orange on this map http://www.geograph.org.uk/mapbrowse.php - zoom into your region of interest. Occasionally, squares that have become 'green' again because a mislocated photo was moved are announced on the forum at http://www.geograph.org.uk/discuss/index.php?&action=vthread&forum=2&topic=8428&page=0 . Expect an imminent mass pilgrimage of Geograph-ers to these, though!
There are also other points that you might like to collect. Personal points are awarded for _your_ first geograph for a square. This map http://www.geograph.org.uk/mapbrowse.php?mine helps you find your personal green squares.
If you are the 2nd, 3rd or 4th visitor to a square and submit a geograph for it, you also get a repeat-visitor point for that. The best way to find which squares have had few visitors is the draggable map http://www.geograph.org.uk/mapper/ . You need to change the data overlaid on the Ordnance Survey map by clicking the blue '+' sign top right. Then select 'contributor depth'. This shows the number of different contributors to each square, so if it shows a '2', then you can get a 3rd-visitor point if you upload a picture for that square.
Finally, there are TPoints. They are awarded for geographs which were taken at least five years earlier and later than any existing ones, so you can get a TPoint for a current geograph if nobody has uploaded one taken in the last five years before you. If you enable the TPoint layer in the draggable map (again, via the blue '+'), you can see to which squares this currently applies. You can also get a TPoint for an archive shot which falls outside the periods five years either side of any previously uploaded geographs, but the map doesn't show this.· More information on this topic... · Edit this answer (Open for editing by anyone) · Provide an alternative answer! - How accurate do I have to locate photos to submit to Geograph? Close
- As accurately as you can. If you can pinpoint subject and photographer position on the map then do so. If you are unsure then don't worry but do expect others to make suggestions of more accurate positions. You can help them by mentioning in the description things such as the direction you were facing or the name of nearby roads.· contributed by Gerald England, Jun 2011 · Edit this answer (Open for editing by anyone) · Provide an alternative answer!
- How can I take better photos? Close
- Geograph is primarily for documentary photographs, not works of art. If your photos clearly show the subject, are well-lit, straightened-up, in focus and if possible visually appealing, you're doing fine. In the Collections area of the site there are many examples: see any of the 'Stellar examples' in Themed topics and illustrations of Geographical context at http://www.geograph.org.uk/tags/primary.php
Light
Generally speaking, sunshine gives best results, but time of day and time of year impart their own qualities to a photo. In bright summer light in the middle of the day, subjects are unavoidably top-lit, often reflective, while shadows are short, intense and below the subject. In the early morning and from late afternoon the sun is lower in the sky, subjects may be side-lit, the light is less harsh and shadows may be attractively long, revealing the form of objects they lie across. Similar conditions prevail in the middle of the day in the winter months. Photographing into the light is not recommended. 'Contre-jour' effects are expressive but may not convey much geographical information. Sometimes, however, you should ignore advice such as this and just respond to the subject and the conditions. For very bright surroundings such as snow, beaches and expanses of rock or concrete, consult your user guide.
Shadow
Subjects and scenes in shadow may sometimes have to be photographed "ready or not". The sun goes in or clouds merge. Pointing the camera more towards the ground will make auto-exposure adjust for a darker subject. If you prefer more control you can change the camera settings: look in your user guide for topics such as 'ISO speed', 'Metering mode' and 'Exposure compensation'. There may be less control with a camera phone: photos taken in poor light are likely to be dark or dull. To salvage something from a disappointing photo, see the answer to the question 'How can I improve a photo?' On the other hand dull days provide opportunities for photographing other subjects, such as details. Exploit the 'flat' light with zoom shots of distant subjects.
Night photography
Photographs taken at night are often classified as supplementals. That is fine; they can reveal geographic and cultural realities not evident during the day. There may be multiple light sources. Again, consult your camera's user guide. Experiment — and stay safe.
edited by Robin Stott· More information on this topic... · contributed by Robin Stott, Jun 2011 · Edit this answer (Open for editing by anyone) · Provide an alternative answer! - Do you accept multiple images per square? Close
- Certainly - the points system is there to encourage people to make that extra effort to capture squares we don't have photos for yet, but we welcome additional images, perhaps showing a different subject, or a different time of year. You could be gaining yourself a personal point too.
Everyone sees things differently - feel free to give us your take on any square. Some squares have been done in considerable detail, helping to more fully document and add depth to a square. In particular, watch out for things others may have missed - the coverage maps can help with this.
Long term, multiple images taken at different times, even of the same subject, help to document change or the lack thereof.· More information on this topic... · contributed by Barry Hunter, Jun 2011 · Provide an alternative answer! - What is a Supplemental image? Close
- (From 11 May 2016 the Supplemental Classification is replaced by Image Type Tags:
see http://www.geograph.org.uk/article/Image-Type-Tags-update ).
If an image doesn't quite fulfill the Geograph criteria above, but is still a good image, we'll accept it as "Supplemental image" - no Geograph points are awarded, but the image will still appear on the selected grid square. A square that just contains Supplemental images is still open to be claimed as a Geograph though!
Supplemental images are not inferior to Geographs, just different. For the interpretation of a square they are just as valuable as they add extra information (in the case of close-ups) or wider views (in the case of aerial shots or images taken from another square).· More information on this topic... · Edit this answer (Open for editing by anyone) · Provide an alternative answer! - How do I get a Geograph point for my image? Close
- If you're the first to submit a "Geograph" for the grid square you'll get a "First Geograph" point added to your profile and the warm glow that comes with it.
We welcome many Geograph images per square, so even if you don't get the point, you are still making a valuable contribution to the project.
In addition we now award "Second Visitor" points (and Third and Fourth!) - which are given to the first Geograph the second contributor adds to a square. The third contributor similarly gets a "Third" point for their first Geograph to the square.
So a single square can have a First, Second, Third and Fourth Visitor point, but a contributor can only get one of those per square.
You can earn yourself a "Personal" point by submitting a "Geograph" for a square that is new to you, regardless of how many contributors have been there before.· Edit this answer (Open for editing by anyone) · Provide an alternative answer! - What are TPoints, how do they work? Close
- TPoint or 'Time-gap Point' is a new kind of point. A contributor can gain a TPoint by submitting a contemporary photo to a square that hasn't had a photo for 5 years. The aim is to increase the date range of available photos per square.
Squares available for a recent photo are shown in orange on the Recent Only coverage map,
http://www.geograph.org.uk/map/?recent=1
or purple dots on the 'TPoint Availability' layer on the Draggable OS map.
http://www.geograph.org.uk/mapper/?lat=650000&lon=350000&zoom=0&layers=BFFTFF&recent=1
Also can get listings of squares via this page
http://www.geograph.org.uk/squares.php?distance=5&gridref=SH5050&type=norecent
(change the grid-reference in the box to your area of interest)
· Read more about the various points on the Statistics FAQ
http://www.geograph.org.uk/help/stats_faq· More information on this topic... · Edit this answer (Open for editing by anyone) · Provide an alternative answer! - how can I tell which of my submissions gained a Tpoint Close
- Shortly after moderation, but NOT for Supplementals, your photo will clearly state that it has earned a T point.· contributed by Flying Stag, Jun 2012 · Edit this answer (Open for editing by anyone) · Provide an alternative answer!
- Does a 'cross-grid' qualify for a T-point? I have noticed at least one cross-grid being awarded. Close
- No, T-points are only awarded to Geographs. However, if an image which qualified for a T-point is later reclassified as 'cross grid' (e.g. photographer position added or moved) it is likely to retain its T-point for some time. Up-dating of T-points (an infrequent process) is long over-due.· More information on this topic... · contributed by Penny Mayes, Feb 2019 · Edit this answer (Open for editing by anyone) · Provide an alternative answer!
- Why do only some photos get a Geograph point? Close
- In general you will only get a point the first time you visit a grid square, and your photo is moderated as a "geograph". You may also get extra points if you are one of the first 4 people to visit the square. Subsequent photos in the same square will not get you any points, photos classified as "supplemental" will not get you any points.
(From 11 May 2016 the Supplemental Classification is replaced by Image Type Tags:
see http://www.geograph.org.uk/article/Image-Type-Tags ).
Tpoints work slightly differently to the above: you get a Tpoint if you submit a geograph which has a time difference of 5 years (before or after) compared to other geographs in the grid square: So with Tpoints it may be possible to get subsequent points for the same grid square.· More information on this topic... · contributed by Roger Jones, Jun 2011 · Edit this answer (Open for editing by anyone) · Provide an alternative answer! - Is there a table of how many new points I acquire per month? Close
- Yes, there is! And also for many other sorts of time series analysis you may be interested in: http://www.geograph.org.uk/statistics/overtime.php .
You've got the choice of analysing data for Geograph as a whole or just for yourself.
You can download the table in comma-separated value format for further analysis and plotting in external programs.
(Inspired by a question asked on the forum http://www.geograph.org.uk/discuss/index.php?&action=vthread&forum=18&topic=13062&dontcount=1&page=0#1 by Anthony V and answered by barryhunter.)· More information on this topic... · Edit this answer (Open for editing by anyone) · Provide an alternative answer! - Is it possible to get a point for a "supplemental"? Close
- (From 11 May 2016 the Supplemental Classification is replaced by Image Type Tags:
see http://www.geograph.org.uk/article/Image-Type-Tags ).
No points unfortunately, but that doesn't mean they're pointless - they can give much more detail or, on the other hand, broad vistas which wouldn't fit in otherwise.
They have their own leaderboard, though: http://www.geograph.org.uk/statistics/moversboard.php?type=supps .· More information on this topic... · Edit this answer (Open for editing by anyone) · Provide an alternative answer! - Why have I gained an extra point without uploading a picture? Close
- Sometimes pictures get relocated if they have been uploaded to the wrong grid square by mistake. This is often the case with images from the very early days of Geograph, when there was no or only scanned out-of-copyright mapping available.
Very occasionally, a (first) Geograph gets reclassified as a supplemental image* if there had been a clear error in the original classification.
Also rarely, images are withdrawn or vaulted for a long period because they weren't taken from a place with public access and the land owner has complained.
In all these cases, the next uploaded geograph (if any) will take the point, and if that was yours, then you'll find a miraculous extra point on your profile.
*From 11 May 2016 the Supplemental Classification is replaced by Image Type Tags:
see http://www.geograph.org.uk/article/Image-Type-Tags· Edit this answer (Open for editing by anyone) · Provide an alternative answer! - Is there a list of all the squares that I got personal points for? Close
- Go to the Advanced Search page http://www.geograph.org.uk/search.php?form=text . In the limits section, click the 'you!' button and tick 'geograph only'. In the 'finally' section, select 'at most one image from each grid square' and hit Search. This will show all your images holding persoanl points.
As a by-product, you can see in the search results how many geographs you have in each square ('')n images in group').
Asked on the forum by Adrian Cable and answered by Barry Hunter.· More information on this topic... · Edit this answer (Open for editing by anyone) · Provide an alternative answer! - How can I show a picture on the forum? Close
- If you want to show a thumbnail of a picture from the Geograph collection, just copy and paste its URL (web address) between a pair of square brackets: [http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/1234567] or just its id number between a pair of triple square brackets: [[[1234567]]].
You can't generally show pictures from other websites, but you can link them so people can click the link to view the picture elsewhere by using this syntax: [url=http://www.example.com/pic.jpg]anchor text[/url] where 'anchor text' stands for the text people click to go to the picture.
If you've got a picture that adds value to the point you're making but it's not suitable to upload it to the Geograph collection, you can upload it to the Geograph media server http://media.geograph.org.uk/ . Once uploaded you can show it in a forum thread using the [img]http://media.geograph.org.uk/files/....[/img] syntax. Use the 'direct link' URL from the upload page for this. This works for png, gif and jpeg formats. If the image is wider than 640px, it'll automatically be shrunk to fit.
This technique is best used for supporting material such as out-of-copyright photos that you can't license under the Creative Commons licence, user-generated maps or graphs showing statistics etc. It should not be used to create signatures, smileys or avatars or other recurrent images, which aren't used on the Geograph forums.· More information on this topic... · Edit this answer (Open for editing by anyone) · Provide an alternative answer!
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