NS3778 : Enclosure at Carman

taken 12 years ago, near to Renton, West Dunbartonshire, Great Britain

Enclosure at Carman
Enclosure at Carman
Click on the end-note title for other views. The old enclosure is still distinguishable, by its greener colour, from its surroundings. The farmstead of Carman, later represented by Carman House, was located at the enclosure's southern side: NS3778 : The site of Carman House.

In the present photograph, the former location of Carman House is in the middle distance; it is the bright-green area to the right of a small group of trees. From there (compare NS3778 : Enclosure at Carman: southern side), the former enclosure, paler and more green than the surrounding moorland, extends almost to the left-hand edge of the image.
Enclosure on Carman Muir

See Link (in a Geograph article) for more information. The enclosure was associated with Carman House (a former farmstead), and is part of a larger field system; see Link for views of that field system, and Link for the remains of Carman House itself.
See LinkExternal link for an annotated satellite view that is centred on the enclosure (which is marked in dark blue).

For a time, horses were sold at this enclosure: "The placing of Carman Cattle Fair at the now vanished Carman House on Carman Muir (just below the Carman Road) instead of the summit of Carman Hill is a common mistake. After the cattle fair ceased in the last decade of the nineteenth century, the selling of horses continued on Carman Muir beside the house for a few more years. It is this latter stage which was passed down as a living recollection almost to my time in the area." [John Mitchell, in letter dated 21/4/2001, amongst the cuttings held on file at Dumbarton Library].

However, see also LinkExternal link (PDF), at the Vale of Leven website; that article is based on first-hand recollections.

Carman Muir field system

A hitherto unreported system of old agricultural boundaries associated with Carman farmstead. Satellite imagery shows traces of furrows within this system. See LinkExternal link for an annotated satellite view of the field system.

The farmstead see Link (in a Geograph article) was represented in the early twentieth century by Carman House (at c.NS37287858); see Link for the remains of Carman House. See Link for an enclosure where horses used to be sold. That enclosure, which is just to the north of Carman House, is apparently part of the same field system.

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Date Taken
Thursday, 16 September, 2010   (more nearby)
Thursday, 23 September, 2010
Geographical Context
Historic sites and artefacts 
Place (from Tags)
Carman Muir 
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Enclosure   (more nearby)
Subject Location
OSGB36: geotagged! NS 3723 7860 [10m precision]
WGS84: 55:58.3630N 4:36.5904W
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OSGB36: geotagged! NS 3719 7840
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North-northeast (about 22 degrees)
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