2018

NY4055 : Former "Gretna Tavern" - February 2018 (1)

taken 7 years ago, near to Carlisle, Cumbria, England

Former "Gretna Tavern" - February 2018 (1)
Former "Gretna Tavern" - February 2018 (1)
The former "Gretna Tavern" is a building of historic importance as it was the first building acquired by the State Management Scheme in 1916. It was also the first State Management Scheme commission for architect Harry Redfern, who designed the interior. However, the story is very complex as, at its full extent, the "Gretna Tavern" comprised ALL the buildings seen in this view. What is now Lloyds Bank (the central section) was originally Carlisle's main Post Office, which moved to new premises on the Warwick Road in 1916. This building seems to have been completed circa 1840, as the OS Map shows the site occupied by the "Athenaeum", with the Post Office to the right (the building with the blinds – which is believed to date from 1863). The “Athenaeum” was purchased by the Post Office in 1874.
Period OS Map show no evidence of any of these premises being a pub prior to 1916. But the 1925 OS Map shows the entire site - from the turreted building to the building with the blinds - as the "Gretna Tavern". To add to the confusion, a photograph dated 18 May 1917 shows King George V and Queen Mary leaving the tavern by a door just to the right of where the pedestrian is standing in this shot.
The central section (now Lloyds Bank) was sold to the Trustee Saving Bank at some yet to be discovered date between 1925 and 1938 – leaving the two flanking buildings plus an adjoining section behind the bank building as the “Gretna Tavern”. This layout is confirmed in the Scheme’s Sale Tender document, with these premises sold to Eden Construction in 1973 for £82,215.
Today, the building on the left is commercial premises while the central section is a branch of Lloyds Bank. Only the original Post Office to the far right are licensed premises – now called “The Last Zebra”.
See also: NY4055 : Former "Gretna Tavern" - February 2018 (2),
NY4055 : Former "Gretna Tavern" - February 2018 (3) and
NY4055 : Exchange Buildings, Lowther Street - March 2018.
Photograph is for record only – I have no connection with any business seen in this view and cannot advise on their products or services.
The State Managed Pubs & Breweries of Carlisle and District :: NY4459

To supply munitions for the Great War, a huge complex was constructed north of Carlisle. Starting in the autumn of 1915, some 10-12,000 “navvies” built a glycerine plant at Dornock between Eastriggs and Annan, while a distilled ether plant was erected between Mossband and Longtown. Eventually stretching some 7 miles long by 2 miles deep with 17 miles of perimeter fencing, at its peak it employed some 20,000 people – mainly women but with a considerable number of male construction workers.
Unfortunately, the influx of “navvies” gave rise to serious drunkenness problems in the City of Carlisle. While Carlisle had some 120 licensed premises in 1916, many were small, one-roomed affairs which simply could not cope with the crowds. Also, the local Constabulary were greatly pressed, with 953 convictions for drunkenness in 1916 (compared with 250 in 1914/15). In addition, there was concern a “tired and emotional” worker could accidentally reduce the area to a very large hole in the ground!
The Government’s answer was to “nationalise” all the pubs and breweries in Carlisle, a process begun in July 1916 and which quickly extended out to Longtown in the east and Maryport in the south-west. Pubs around Gretna and Eastriggs were also included. All were under the control of a local Board, based at 19 Castle Street, Carlisle (now a bookshop), which imposed strict opening hours, a maximum (and very low) alcoholic content for beer and spirits, and a ban on “treating” (buying a round for your mates).
Many old or inadequate pubs were quickly closed. But the scheme did not end with the cessation of hostilities on 11 November 1918, with the last pub – the White Swan in Wigton – only being acquired in January 1921. Indeed, Government control of these pubs and breweries continued until 1971, with return to private ownership not completed until 1973.
As the Scottish pubs soon moved to the control of a local Board, this Shared Description is intended to cover only the pubs and breweries purchased by the Scheme in what is now north-west Cumbria, or built in the years 1916-1971 – or what may now be found on the site (if anything). Many have closed – some have been demolished and some are under new developments or even roads! But there is one excellent book on the subject – “The Carlisle State Management Scheme” by the late Olive Seabury (Bookcase – 2007 – currently out of print), while “Carlisle Breweries and Public Houses 1894-1916” by Steven Davidson (P3 Publications – 2004 – also out of print) is a very useful starting point. Also, the web sites: “The State Management Story” LinkExternal link (not regularly updated) and Wikipedia at: LinkExternal link


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The Carlisle Kid   (more nearby)
Date Taken
Sunday, 25 February, 2018   (more nearby)
Submitted
Monday, 26 February, 2018
Subject Location
OSGB36: geotagged! NY 402 557 [100m precision]
WGS84: 54:53.5847N 2:55.9762W
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OSGB36: geotagged! NY 402 557
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East-southeast (about 112 degrees)
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